What if the political problem of our age is not that we are all too pacified – subjected or lured into passivity – but that we’re overly activated and animated? Political content produced by the documentarian, influencer, party member, NGO and the well-meaning citizen too often misses this point, bombarding us with more information in the hope that the latest uncovered fact will finally mobilise us into action. Along the way, they find themselves combatting corporations and states in the digital struggle for ever-declining pockets of attention. In this conversation, Andrew Culp and Thomas Dekeyser trace the limits of a politics of activation and sketch out models for exit strategies.